Had a wonderful time with my daughters and wife here. The girls got to get close up to their favorite animals (mostly the goats sheep etc) and got to feed them. Bathrooms were clean which we appreciated. Staff were constantly visible doing upkeep.

This is truly a hidden gem. Animals were very excited to see us. We arrived early to beat the heat and made it through in just over two hours. Animals were happy and healthy. Love this place. Quaint and lovely. The free roaming peacocks were my favorite

Went with my daughter and grand daughters. We loved the natural feel. The animals were beautiful and well taken care of. No pavement. We walked the dirt trails approximately 2 miles. Definitely recommend.

I really enjoyed going to this zoo. I thought all of the animals had pretty good space of their own but maybe some could use a little more space for running. Ex: lions, tigers, mini horses, monkeys. Everyone else seemed to have a lot of space and everyone seemed very well taken care of. Although the white tailed deer looked a little skinny, maybe they are rescued and one of the bucks hurt its antler so maybe they need a little extra supervision. Also the alligator exhibit needs some work done on the bridge. I feel like the fence on the bridge has too big of a gap between it and the bridge and the wooden boards need some reinforcement. Overall, I really enjoyed my encounter with the animals and next time I visit south Carolina I will remember this place and come back.

Very nice place and alot of animals to see and too much fun

Love this place! We come here everytime we come to visit Myrtle Beach! It has easy paths to follow and the animals are all personable. Its family friendly too! And the terrain is natural. The animals all have enough room to roam as well. We love this zoo and cant wait to see these animals again on our next visit!

The animals looked good and people were friendly, are wagon broke and they could use some donations as some things were broken and run down. we enjoyed out visit

The sadness that comes from these cages is horrifying. The love is not there the care is not there and physically shown at this “zoo”. Let’s start with admission prices. It’s too cheap too even begin, the first thing you walk into is a front lobby barn with snacks and birds and I smelt something dead halfway down the barn. I get the soda machine for a Pepsi I put in a dollar, it takes my dollar without giving me my soda, I was already so devastated pulling in and paying admission I walked right back in and asked for a soda and how the machine took my dollar, they were wicked nice about it. But that alone, showed me this place is not ran well at all even though I’m sure they put in there best efforts it’s not kept up. When you walk out, there’s an abandoned concession stand that sells hotdogs, popcorn ect. It’s completely shut down and mangled. This is a huge alternative too making money, there losing money with that concession stand closed down. As far as I could tell, there was picnic tables that could have been open too the public but there away in the woods where stuff is overgrown and not trimmed down and I had worn sandals during this trip, highly recommend sneakers cause I got attacked my fire ants not just by the picnic tables, and seeing cages empty and not utilized or even safe. There cages are worn and not being fixed but there working on other things for who knows what. These animals are literally fed peanuts and cat food and corn grain to hand out which you realistically have to throw over a second fence cause whoever built these cages have no common sense on constructing a cage. Majority of the animals were highly sick and dehydrated and malnourished especially the bears and the tiger that they have in there is hairless due too a “disease” which I don’t think is true at all looking at all the other unhealthy animals there, the bears are losing hair too so it’s too the lions. That tiger needs to get out of there and needs treatment immediately and rehabilitation. He was literally crying and panting around his cage in distress out of every animal in this place the tiger was on a death limb. The moneys we’re eating vegetables. There’s this antique barn that’s not cleaned up or kept up at all. The kangaroos aren’t there. Again when you walk around too where there supposed to be, you smell something dead. I did not go here too see sick malnourished animals that were literally abandoned and unloved, not accounted for. I can’t even go back cause I don’t wanna see that again, if you are an animal lover please just take yourself and your kids 3 hours too Columbia too see a better and healthier zoo. I left feeling so sad and guilty. I felt so helpless. Phone calls and reviews only do so much. Close waccatee zoo down and give them up.

As others have reiterated, this was just a sad experience for our family, and the animals that are kept on this property. We came on a Saturday mid-day, and the place was nearly empty except for another family. The staff helpfully took our money to get in, but you never saw them again in the zoo to give actual information about the animals throughout the zoo. Dont expect to have any shows that show off any of the animals either, it is completely self-guided. The animal cages were in poor shape, and needed a good mow. I was worried leaning over the railing over the river if the wood was even going to hold. There was an alligator in the water and it wouldnt have been pretty to fall in! If there was a kangaroo, it certainly was hidden somewhere in the weeds. The zoo got more depressing as you got further in it, seeing the condition of the big cats & bears and how small their cages were just made me want to leave. I dont think I will ever be back to this zoo, and I do hope some action will be made soon to shut this place down and give these animals the life they deserve.

This place is truly a hidden gem the prices are great and the place is big with lots of animals to see and interact with the staff is friendly and welcoming would love to come back

This was me and my family first time going to this zoo during our yearly myrtle beach trip. We really enjoyed it. It was a nice walk and the animals were friendly. We loved Clyde the . The tiger was a fright though. He looked sick, hair loss, and he kept walking in circles making the adults nervous. Over all it was a great sunny day spent with loved ones.

This place is awful. When me and my daughter took my grand daughter there I felt so much sadness when we left. I almost cried I could feel their sadness and pain literally. The animals are not being taking care of it was overgrown, cages were nasty, just the further you went the worse it was. I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS PLACE THEY SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN AND THOSE POOR POOR ANIMALS GET HELP PLEASE

So much variety and loved seeing all these animals! Great zoo for all ages!

Kids ages 6&8 had a fantastic time. Took about 3+ hours to walk through and see all of the animals and feed them. Bought a bag of popcorn bag of peanuts and a mixed cup. Was perfect amount for the three of us. Lots of laughter and educating them. Definitely wear sneakers- the dusty dirty ground is just that. Kids also loved the gift shop.

Our favorite zoo to visit whenever we are in Myrtle Beach. Its not your normal zoo, but it is well maintained & the animals show how much they are loved.

Better than we expected. Loved the peacocks. We didnt get to see the kangaroo or alligator. But it was definitely a great visit. Be prepared to walk and its alot of roots and uneven terrain so wear comfortable shoes. Staff was extremely friendly. Will definitely recommend to others and would visit again during next trip.

Looks can be deceiving! I absolutely loved this place was awesome! Great pricing and it had a lot to offer. So many animals to see and great walking trails to see everything. Very family friendly for all ages.

My wife and I had a lot of fun here. Food bags were a decent price. There was a crapload full of turtles that we fed in a lake. There was over 100 Im not over exaggerating. I like that the deer was free roaming around. One got very close to us and we gave it food. I loved seeing a bear up close. Bigger cages are needed yes but I really loved this place.

Very sad.. those animals need a better living space then what they have..

We started going to this zoo about 10 years ago. We have always enjoyed it and I couldnt wait to take my kids this year. The standard of care for the animals, enclosures & grounds has drastically declined. My daughter wondered why the animals were sick, The bears had growths on the side of his face and was missing hair, the mountain lion looked like it hadnt eaten in a while & there was so many enclosures that were rusted & over grown. They need to sale the old cars and put the money back into the zoo. Build bigger enclosures for the lions & regravel pathways. We had a stroller that was covered in mud at the end of the visit. They also need to fix the wooden bridges that cross over the pond & stream, it had a few boards that were falling down. I didnt want to write this review because it has always truly been a great experience but today I was so disappointed. Unless alot changes we will not be going back.

We had read bad reviews of the zoo and went for the first time today. We LOVED this zoo. Fabulous experience. Great staff. Animals well taken care of. Zoo set in setting of tall old shade trees. Walkways were not concrete jungles. Perfect for hot summer days. Picnic pavilion with tables if you wanted to bring food. HIGHLY recommend.

Good place for kids. They had fun giving food to the animals. Zoo is not big, but not bad.

Interesting place, a lot bigger than it looks. Lots of walking, not enough exhibits for the amount of walking we had to do. Lots of goats, sheep and birds

We have visited twice, both times weve gone to Myrtle Beach. Very affordable and the atmosphere is so cute. Its a great place to just take a break and enjoy some shade. You get to feed most of the animals with food that you can buy there.

Me and my husband decided to come while visiting South Carolina. Despite most reviews we actually really enjoyed our visit here. A lot of different animals and we were able to feed most while walking around. Great experience and will definitely have to return.

Prices were good, animals looked like they could be fed more, and the place seems to have been let go since the last time my family and I have came. It needs to be kept up to attract people not run down.

5 hours was barely enough time for all of the cool animals at the Waccatee Zoo. There were peacocks everywhere, and an assortment of grazing animals at the entrance. Most of the animals you can feed even let you pet them. Make sure to buy a bag of peanuts; a cup is not enough! I was a little concerned about the large cats in such small cages, and saw one ape attack his own leg, which was strange. There were a few animals pacing, like the cougar and the tiger. Some of the animals were clearly very old. Im not an expert, and the staff who care for the animals seemed very knowledgeable. Overall, it was a great day, and everyone seemed very nice.

LOVE this little/big zoo, definitely one of the best kept secrets in Myrtle Beach. I cannot wait to take my family next time they come down to visit. Its like a GINORMOUS petting zoo, it was a TON of fun. I highly recommend to everyone.

This place is absolutely god awful--- if you have HALF a heart please do not feed in and give them your money. Do a bit of research on what youre about to support. The animals are absolutely miserable and so so so sad. As a local, I can tell you that this place does absolutely no good. Please please please do not go here.

Fun zoo for all ages. Many different animals exhibits to see. Big area and many paths that will last hours.

This place has the potential to be amazing, but there are so many animals in horrendous conditions. The snakes broke my heart the most. Cages full of poop, sheds, filthy bedding and dirty water. Most are without heat and very deathly thin. So many animals in such a small area with so much open land available to be used. All the exotics look bad but the domestics look good. I just pray they fix things up and they could become a wonderful zoo with many interesting animals.

Used to be a good place to kill an afternoon, but lately they have stopped caring for the animals and Their cages like they used to. The animals are skinny and look deeply unhappy. Either they need to close for a little and renovate the animals habitats or sell the animals to a zoo that is capable of handling them and close for good.

AMAZING!!! 2ND VISIT and cant wait to go back next vacation to myrtle beach ️

We enjoyed this place. I know a lot of people have negative opinions of this zoo but its a zoo...all zoos have animals in captivity! It is a cool place and your kids will LOVE it.

Wonderful. ONly thing missing was an elephant. Animals have lots of pasture to graze and wander over. They must switch out the animals into smaller areas to view so they can take turns being out in the larger areas. Clean. The animals are so tame you can tell the workers are close to them and show the animals lots of love.

I dont know what is more upsetting, the sad condition of the animals or the positive reviews about what an amazing time they had. I feel sorry for you if you can justify your own pleasure by supporting this place and saying how much fun the kids had...

Lots of interesting animals to see love the black bear

Really enjoyed this zoo my child enjoyed it. It would be good if they offered pony rides or did activities for the kids more but I really enjoyed going and would go back.

Wonderful zoo for a great day out. Staff are very good informative and helpful. My family loves this zoo. I could go every weekend if I could.

Price and location very good, great variety of animals but they need bigger cages!

Fun place. Kids will love it

This is a cool place but need some tlc. The animals need a little bit more care. The bears and tiger look very sick and there room/cages where to small.

Terrible place. A nightmare for these poor animals

Animals in small cages, looked unwell, overgrown unkept environments, animals looked unkept and seriously doubt they are receiving proper medical care. Depressing, 1/2 way through I just wanted to leave as quickly as possible. I live in Md and the Maryland zoo and Washington shows how animals are to be cared for. DO NOT PATRONIZE THIS ZOO!

Animals were poorly cared for outdated enclosures too small for most animals

Horrible place. Enclosures are far too small. It was a horribly depressing day. Dont ever go, dont support them, dont give any money at all. They need to shut down.

Alot of walking. I think the grounds could have been maintained better. Only animal that looked malnourished was a couple deer we saw.

Great place to visit with or without kids. So many animals to see and every enclosure freshly raked and clean water in every enclosure. All the staff were nice and helpful. The nature trail along the intercoastal waterway was so nice and relaxing. Just to sit back and watch the ship go by so nice. And so many deer and buffalo. All the animals were so active. You gotta go.

DO NOT PATRONIZE THIS ZOO! It is truly heartbreaking the conditions of these animals. Their health and and living conditions are terrible! Some receive no medical attention and just rot away. Do not give your money to these people for the sake of entertainment. These animals are helpless.

Nice shaded walk lots of interesting animals and Birds

Great hidden jem! Great hand feeding the animals with the kids. Awsome experience!!

Its a really nice place. They care about the animals there. Staff very nice and helpfull. Its not like a big city zoo, everything is simple as it should be.

Always great place to take kids. Love those funny monkeys

So I took my lady and the kiddos to this zoo that we have been to several times throughout the years. We were soo excited, until we arrived. The food containers were empty, the animals looked very sad and neglected. Im not an advocate for pita or any other organization, but its very clear that the animals are dying, and the grounds look like its an abandoned ghost zoo. The black bear, has severe hot spots (probably also mange) as well as the tiger. The kangaroo was alone in a very small fence, in a cage grown up with months of growth. The bridges are rotting, and have boards that are loose, trees have fallen and taken out fences that have not been repaired.In conclusion, I would not recommend this facility at all. It is run down, and the property and the animals do NOT get the treatment they need. If you dont have the money or man power to run the zoo, CLOSE THE DOORS!!!! ANIMAL CRUELTY IS NOT COOL.ANY ZOO THAT LOOKS ABANDONED NEEDS TO BE CLOSED!All of the comments on here saying this zoo is the greatest or the staff is amazing bs is just that hot steamy bs... I did not take pictures because it bothered me to the point that Im not going to promote this behavior.Shame on you if you think this is how humans care for animals that are pinned and cant fend for themselves... spend a day or two in some of those empty cages that are everywhere and see how you feel about it then!

Disgusting place, horrible conditions. Who would do this type of thing?

We had an incredible time. Grandkids loved it!

Absolutely loved this place. We took our kids two 10 year olds, 7 year old, 4 year old, and a 10 month old. We had a blast. Very friendly staff and very helpful. I would recommend to anyone wanting to look at beautiful animals outside their natural habitat.

Ok, so Im 16 and me and my family just went there and it is sad. Ive been to multiple zoos in multiple states and this has to be the worst one. 90% of the animals seem depressed. Yeah it cheap but if love animals and care about them DO NOT GO TO THIS ZOO!

Always my favourite zoo with so many good memories here.

Do not believe the negative reviews, this zoo was a great experience and a fantastic time for our family. We will definitely be back to visit again. The staff there was very friendly and helpful.

Absolutely amazing!!! Family owned and operated. I will return again and again!!!!

Very family friendly. My 2 year old love it. The price is very good.I must say tho the animals dont look well taken care of some look sickly and stressed and I wish the cages was bigger for them all! Otherwise we enjoyed it

What a great Zoo, nice,cool, great place & out in the woods.

Awesome and relaxing. People are friendly and helpful. Feeding all the animals is quite a lot of fun!!!

This zoo was muxh larger than expected, you can get so close to the enclosures and really get a great view of the wildlife.

Great time some of the food dispensers didnt work but other than that a great time!

Place needs to actually take care of their animals. Enclosures need to be better too

Awesome experience! My kids had a blast!

Awesome place to visit. My family loves going . The staff is friendly and love the animals.

Lots of interaction with the animals. Kids loved that they could feed so many animals.

Please research before you go to a zoo!! Dont trust there message or reviews from customers that clearly arent aware of what standards animals deserve. If you care for animals stay clear of this zoo. You can clearly see this once you enter; they are not ethical. Waccatee also has a long history of violating the federal Animal Welfare Act.

A lot bigger than what I thought it would be. Great for a beautiful stroll and visit with with the family to see some different animals... Word to the wise, dont forget your baby stroller like I did....!

I work at the aquarium and will be reporting this place

This zoo should be shutdown! I visited Wacatee Zoo approximately 6 years ago with my family and I can say it absolutely disgusts me to read peoples positive reviews about this terrible place. This is animal ABUSE. All enclosures were to small, had no greenery, most animals did not have fresh water nor food, and many appeared anxious. The bigger cats were pacing and clearly in rough shape. Just because the law says you can own these types of animals, does not mean you are at all fit. I left in tears and instantly made a report to PETA. I have kept up with the petitions to close this zoo ever since. The owners should be ashamed of themselves.

Bottom line up front: Considering the price and overall experience I would rate this a 4.5 stars. Knowing you cant rate a 4.5 start I asked my three kids (11, 9, and 6) what I should rate this zoo and they all said 10 stars!If you are looking for a high price zoo (like the Baltimore or National zoo in DC) that only accept and show health animals and have very limited animal interaction or if you are looking for highly funded rescue animal missions like in Buffalo NY then you might not enjoy this zoo. If you are looking for a cheap zoo to have a good time at, want lots of animal interaction without all of the crowds then this is the place for you!Honest review: I consider all things when doing a review and I take reviews very seriously. When looking at the reviews of this zoo I had my concerns but I am so glad we decided to try this zoo out.Price: The zoo is half the price of other zoos in the area. It is a great value for what you get! Not only is the admission very reasonable but the feed for the animals, drinks, and wagon rentals are all very reasonable.Feeding the animals: Nearly all the animals can be fed. I am personally surprised how many reviews had negative reviews and wrong information regarding the feeding. The truth is we bought two large bags of feed for the 9 of us. My kids had a blast, I had a great time and my father loved feeding all the animals. The two large bags were gone at the end of our time at the zoo. The only animals you cant feed were the animal that are carnivorous (wont eat the feed), the ones on special diets (very few animals), and the animals that WILL bite you (yes you can still feed them but just not hand feed them). Yes, all animals bite (imagine that!) so there are some signs that say feed with caution as animals MAY bite. I personally fed all the animals with those signs and was not bitten once. The kids fed them with adult supervision with no issues. The animals are well used to people feeding them.Variety: One review I saw said most of the animals (80 percent) were goats. Completely wrong. Yes there was lots of goats in lots of the areas but not even close to 80 percent. Even if someone said 40 percent were goats I would be surprised. There are a ton of animals and reptiles. We saw fish, turtles, tons of birds, lizards, snakes, monkeys/apes, cattle, foxes, goats, water buffalo, bears, and more!Walking trails: All the trails were very fun to walk. There are three well maintained trails. We had 9 people and baby in a stroller. Even the older adults had no issues walking the level and cleared pathways. The stroller had NO issues and could go everywhere.Condition of animals: You have to keep in mine the owners accept all animals and most of the animals are older or have been injuries at one point in time. I am not an expert (as many people are trying to be) but I didnt see any animals being mistreated. We did see some older animals but you cant fix old. If an animal is old what are you going to do with them? The owners have decided to keep them and take care of them. The only real issues I saw was the bear cage was a little small but they did have a large play area they were not using.Condition of cages: Not as clean and well kept as a hugely funded zoos. The cages could be cleaner or some repairs could be beneficial but it is not as bad as some people are making it out to be. The cages are not bad enough to actually be of any harm to the animals, its just not as pleasant to the eyes as a new cage.Overall I would recommend to anyone.

Agreed these animals SHOULD BE BETTER TAKEN CARE OF... I LOVE HANDSOME THE BABOOM...HOWEVER...HE HAS TRIED HIS BEST AND THESE ANIMALS ARE FINE he always takes care of the animals..its called getting old Ive seen that tiger for 15 years..

Took my girlfriend and son here for his 1st zoo visit and had an awesome time!

Familiar and easy to visit place with very different kind of animals.

I have pictures from a trip in 1995. Beautiful grounds well kept. Fast foward to a new decade. Animals in tiny cages filled with mud. Foul smelling since im guessing that mud is mixed with lots of fecal matter that NEVER gets cleaned out. This place was nice about 30 years ago. Its gone downhill and the animals need to be removed.

It was a good experience. The kids enjoyed themselves. I personally feel bad for the animals. Whatever the case may be as to why they are here or any other zoo.

Took my daughter here and she loved it now one day this week going to take my grandkids

Please do NOT go to this NIGHTMARE of a zoo. Small cages. Animals in EXTREMELY small cages. These owners should find it in there hearts to let these animals go. I legitimately cried.

Although it doesnt have the looks, its really fun and has a lot of animals to feed. Really great place!!

This is one of thee best zoos in this area. I came down to visit for the week and saw a few options and this one beat the rest out.What I really liked about this place is that the animals were out in the open and there was a lot of interaction between them and the guests. You get to feed them and pet most of them. There are signs throughout each enclosure informing guests if they can be fed or not and it was very informative.They provide a detailed map for you with some nice views of the property. Peacocks are EVERYWHERE and very exciting to watch. The staff members were very knowledgeable of the animals and showed a very loving attitude and appreciation for them. The other perk of this zoo is that every dollar spent on the place goes right back into the maintenance and upkeep of the property and the zoo.It was so nice here that my partner and I returned for a second visit this week. I would highly recommend stopping in to this zoo. Very family friendly and a nice exciting trip! BRAVO!

Was pretty sad especially the big cats and the bears all not being properly taking care of them small enclosuers be prepared to be sad my 10 year old son cried when we got to the lions They where all pacing the whole time. DONT GO!

Best zoo I have ever been to.

Wonderful. ONly thing missing was an elephant. Animals have lots of pasture to graze and wander over. They must switch out the animals into smaller areas to view so they can take turns being out in the larger areas. Clean. The animals are so tame you can tell the workers are close to them and show the animals lots of love.

Absolutely love everything about this zoo and would definitely go here again. Love the animals, love the employees, I just love everything about the place. The peacocks running around the zoo were funny and very, very pretty. The birds and snakes in the office were super funny and pretty too. $6 for a gallon of assorted nuts/animal food was a very well spent $6, the zoo was surprisingly cheap for how much of a blast it was. The map was very easy to navigate and the animals’ habitats were very open for the animals to have space and the goats were cute. The egrets’ spot was very cool with all the different places that they could perch over the river. Overall great experience and 1000000000000000/10 would go here again

Should be zero stars. Lila, the tigress, is nearly hairless and pacing her sanctuary. She is presenting with an apparent medical condition and not receiving proper veterinary care. Please transfer Lila to an accredited sanctuary immediately and retire the rest of your animals to reputable facilities.

We left depressed! Between the extremely under weight deer & animals without food & fresh water it broke our hearts!

I visit this zoo about 3 times a year. Small but fun to feed the animals. The antique car collection is interesting. The area could use some tidying up. And the vendor stations are always closed. Take a snack and enjoy it in the parking lot. Entrance is pricey, about $12.

Both Google and Facebook say they are open today until 530. Drove all the way down from NMB only to find half of their gate closed with a CLOSED sign on it. Wasted over an hour in travel time when we could have opted to visit another attraction. Tried calling multiple times on the phone but never got an answer.

Best zoo I’ve ever been too!! You’re up close to animals and get to feed most of them. Lots of nature walking and there’s a boardwalk that’s very cool that is over marsh area. The zookeepers were very nice and knowledgeable. My boys are 2 and 3 years old and loved it. We will be coming back when we are back in the Myrtle Beach area for sure!

Friendly staff for 24 bucks for 2 ppl its fun. I hope the tigers and bear have a bigger enclosure that we dont get to see

This zoo was cool. The price for the admission was reasonable . The kids enjoyed using the feed that was provided to feed the animals. My son gained a good bit of knowledge about the various animals. I would highly recommend this place for anyone who is in Myrtle Beach . Its a lot of fun for the family

This place is truly disturbing. I have never wrote a google review but people need to know how mistreated these poor animals are. My husband and I took our 16 month old daughter and even she looked extremely concerned. The people running this place are not at all maintaining the living environments for these animals. There is plenty of space the could be utilized and work to be done to better this place that was probably once beautiful. The animals live in terrifyingly small spaces and some are even ripping their own hair out due to stress. Small goats have more room then the 2 bears and 2 lions. I am beyond disturbed and will not forget about these poor animals being completely mistreated. Do not give these people your money they are clearly not using it for the better good of the animals. Something needs to be done.

I would give 0 stars if I could. Do not bring people or even animals here. The conditions are discussing for both those viewing the animals and the animals themselves. Animals are distressed and neglected. Showing your kids here will he traumatizing to think all animals look like the ones on this condition. Locals all agree that this place needs to be shut down. Do not give them a penny put of your pocket, it will not go to a good cause.

I come ever year and this place cares about their animals! People need to leave them alone!

Awesome family run zoo. The staff are really friendly and there is plenty of share to walk around. Wear closed toe shoes for walking on the path as most of it is sand and dirt. The animals are ready to see and very close. Great for kids.

Go to Google, and simply type in Waccatee Zoo suffering.This place made our family uncomfortable. It just doesnt seem like they have the training, resources and expertise to handle large animals like lions, tigers, bears, monkeys, etc. Many of the animals were in extremely confined spaces and looked visibly stressed and unhealthy. Also, a tree had fallen down on a part of a separation fence creating a huge safety issue (there are alligators in the park), but the ladies who run the place had no idea when we brought it to their attention.